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INTERVIEW (HollyShorts) | ‘Fishtank’ Director Wendi Tang Talks Exploring Isolation and Sobriety Through Surrealism

INTERVIEW (HollyShorts) | ‘Fishtank’ Director Wendi Tang Talks Exploring Isolation and Sobriety Through Surrealism


In current years, now we have seen a number of brief movies making waves due to their modern storytelling. One such movie is Wendi Tang’s ‘FISHTANK,’ which tells the story of a younger girl named Jules (Tiffany Chu) who can’t cease vomiting GOLDFISH for some purpose. As the story strikes ahead, followers get to know what’s the purpose behind it and the way Jules is attempting to navigate her life by way of sure conditions. Although the narratives round loneliness and sobriety have been tackled in a number of tasks, it hasn’t been informed on this means earlier than.

‘FISHTANK’ is exclusive and modern storytelling at its highest and doesn’t shrink back from taking a troublesome route. Tang, who has attended NYU Tisch School of Arts, has made positive that followers bear in mind the movie for a really very long time after the top credit roll in. The film had its premiere at this 12 months’s HollyShorts Film Festival, which is an Oscar-qualifying pageant, and earned optimistic evaluations. I obtained the prospect to speak to filmmaker Wendi Tang about her brief movie and the way she managed to create such a singular story surrounding isolation.

Fishtank Movie Poster (@Instagram/fishtan.mov)

Aayush Sharma: Congratulations on the film ‘Fishtank,’ however earlier than we speak in regards to the movie. I’d like to learn about your journey within the leisure trade.

Wendi Tang: I used to be born and raised in China and went to New York for school. I went to NYU Tisch School of Arts, it’s the college the place Ang Lee, and Chloe Zhao, loads of very nice Asian filmmakers went to. So I spent greater than 5 years in class due to Covid and every thing. And, yeah, through the journey, I used to be within the twin diploma program, so I attended the Tisch School of the Arts, however I additionally attended the Stern School of Business. So I maintain a enterprise diploma, simply so everybody is aware of. (laughs) Not that it issues, however, yeah, in order that program was actually intense, nevertheless it made me assured and decided that I wish to turn into a writer-director. Before I began writing my stuff, I attempted completely different sections of the leisure trade, particularly the movie and TV trade. I attempted publicity, I attempted growth and simply by way of these processes, I spotted I wished to get myself as shut as potential to the precise manufacturing course of. So I made a decision to begin writing my very own tales, and after writing these tales, I’m like, I ought to simply make these as a result of they’re my tales, and I do know the small print and all of the deep secrets and techniques in regards to the story, so I must be the one to direct it. Directing has additionally been one other ardour for me, as a result of once I was a child, I used to be a type of youngsters that may, like, I would be the chief within the group and be like, let’s act out the scene from yesterday’s TV present. So, I didn’t benefit from the firsthand appearing expertise, however I loved directing different folks to complete the scene. So I really feel like that sort of planted a extremely deep root inside six-year-old me attempting to determine what I wish to do sooner or later. But for filmmaking, it’s all the time laborious, particularly in the event you come from an Asian background. So it took me a very long time to essentially show to my dad and mom that that is what I wish to do for my life. I’m glad I endured. Because there have been loads of setbacks through the course of. Pressure from them (household), from the setting, monetary strain, and different stuff. I believe for now, I’m fairly assured to say that I could make a dwelling by being a filmmaker, and I wish to preserve doing it. I wish to preserve writing and directing.

Aayush Sharma: What was the primary occasion once you determined that you just wished to be a director? 

Wendi: That’s a really nice query, as a result of, like I mentioned, as a toddler, I sort of wish to. I sort of wished to be the chief, the conductor of your complete group, however I didn’t fairly perceive the method of directing but. So I believe it was actually after I began my schooling at NYU, it taught me what it’s, being a director, that you need to perceive each side of the movie, from pre-production to post-production, from growth to advertising and marketing. So I sort of attempt to expose myself as a lot as potential to that info, to that information. So it took me a very long time to get assured in the truth that I could possibly be a director as a result of I all the time had loads of self-doubt in myself, and, like, I all the time doubted it. Oh, am I good at writing? Am I good at speaking to folks? Am I good at explaining issues on set in a really environment friendly method? But I believe it was the schooling at NYU that, as a result of we needed to shoot loads of movies all through the method, from smaller scale ones to, like, larger scale ones. Through the method, I someway obtained to know that I’m proficient in these areas, that I can do just a bit higher than I anticipated and I ought to preserve doing it. I’d say it’s like a by way of line by way of my childhood, nevertheless it landed on the concept I wished to turn into a director once I attended NYU.

Aayush: ‘Fishtank’ is by far essentially the most imaginative and surreal movie I’ve seen this 12 months. It is a type of titles, , that require you to concentrate on a number of little issues. So, how did you provide you with an concept that’s so distinctive and has by no means been tackled earlier than in typical cinema?

Wendi: I’m so glad you picked up these little concepts. I attempted so laborious to plant them.  So speaking in regards to the origin, like, the unique story of the movie, I’d say they arrive from two elements. Like, twofold. One is likely one of the wildest desires that I had. Like, the very bizarre, unusual desires that I had. So the direct inspiration got here from one of many desires the place I dreamt of myself strolling in a abandoned place, like, abruptly, I wished to throw up. I sort of know that I used to be within the dream at the moment, however I wasn’t fairly positive. But the sensation of eager to throw up didn’t cease and earlier than I might understand what was occurring, I already noticed a dwelling goldfish touchdown on my palm and I awakened. That picture woke me up. I used to be like, what does that imply? What does that imply to me? So I broke down the thought, and it took me some time to dive into the method of self-introspection and see how this picture may hook up with my previous, my emotions, and what it means for me sooner or later. I all the time believed desires, they’ve some meanings. They are a mirrored image of your unconscious. So, each time I obtained woken up by these bizarre desires, I attempted to determine one thing. So that’s one a part of the story. The different a part of the story was I used to be not allowed to have pets as a child as a result of my dad and mom didn’t like furry animals.

So as a child, the one pet I obtained to have was a Goldfish. It was like a bit of fish ball with two or three goldfish in it. Like,  I used to be the one child within the household, like, I didn’t have siblings, and I didn’t have cousins of my age, so I spent loads of time simply with my goldfish as a child. But as an alternative of, like, once I regarded into them, as an alternative of these emotions the place, , in Asian cultures, they often affiliate goldfish with actually good meanings, like luck, prosperity. But as an alternative of that, once I regarded on the fish, I immediately felt like once I regarded into their eyes, I felt unhappy. When I used to be wanting into them, I used to be like, why? I imply, the fish, solely have 7 seconds of reminiscences or one thing. They don’t bear in mind something. But once I regarded into them, they regarded unhappy, particularly when folks feed them the fish meals, like, they received’t bear in mind they’ve had it earlier than. They’ve had it like, 2 seconds in the past, I threw it to them. They had one, after which they swam round for a bit, and I threw one other to them. They don’t bear in mind that they had it, and they’d do it once more. And ultimately, like, if I do know that if I preserve throwing meals to them, they’ll preserve consuming until they die, I believe that’s the unhappy a part of it. There had been moments once I thought again to these moments once I regarded into the fish, I someway felt like I relate to them. I do know what they’re feeling at the moment. So that’s one other a part of the story that made me wish to visualize the story, to let folks hear my voice.

Tiffany Chu in Fishtank

Tiffany Chu in Fishtank (Photo Credit: Fishtank)

Aayush: Correct me if I’m flawed. While watching the film, I spotted that, Jules vomiting goldfish is a reminder that one thing is just not proper in her world. We see her first time vomiting whereas assembly a pervert man. Then we see her doing the identical when she goes to the AA assembly, which she doesn’t look interested by. However, the final two are fairly important. So, was that additionally an concept behind exhibiting Jules and her struggles?

Wendi: The visualization of her inner struggles and the time when she will get uncomfortable or will get triggered by the surface world, not simply males. I wished to make it clear as a result of I all the time imagine {that a} girl’s life is just not all the time about males. We have our personal lives. We have issues that we care about. We have issues that we wish, we need. So it’s all her emotions entangled collectively along with her inner struggles, along with her need for connections, for real connections along with her personal. She desires to maintain her life in management. Yeah, it’s like all these issues that sort of make her vomit the fish. When she will get triggered, .

Aayush: You have proven very completely different visible kinds for showcasing Jules’ world. When we meet her for the primary time, it’s very darkish and, makes us understand about her world. But issues immediately change when the fish fanatic enters her life, the lighting turns into extra vibrant Why did you select such contrasting colours and lighting to point out Jules’s world?

Wendi: Yeah, that was utterly intentional with me and my cinematographer, Jay, and we mentioned the visible language some time earlier than the manufacturing, that we don’t need the viewers to really feel too snug strolling away from the movie. I would like them to recollect, or a minimum of among the pictures and the emotions that these pictures give them. So Jules herself within the exterior world, like, I all the time wished to offer a sense of isolation. Like, although she’s standing very near different folks, standing in a really small house with a full home of individuals dancing, the sensation that she will get herself is lonely, that she’s remoted from the world. She’s not connecting with the remainder of the world. So that’s why I selected a darker palette for the surface world. But as soon as she will get residence, although it’s a extremely small condo for herself, it’s crammed along with her fish, one thing that comes out of her physique, and so it turns into a bit of paradise for her on this very chaotic exterior world to create. So I wished to create a distinction so folks really feel what Jules feels when she enters her world. That’s her world.

Aayush: You’re working with such an exceptional actor, Tiffany Chu. So, what was the casting course of like for the movie? Also, was Tiffany Chu all the time the primary selection for enjoying the function of Jules?

Wendi:  It was a really fascinating story as a result of once I was on the lookout for the best actress for this function, I wished somebody who not solely understands Jules, however has a really wealthy understanding of girls’s place within the trade. They have their very own opinion about it and Tiffany suits completely for the function. I obtained launched to Tiffany by way of my casting director, and instantly after we obtained related, we did a two-hour Zoom session. That was our first assembly. Yeah, we talked a couple of script for a bit of bit, however for the remainder of the time, we had been principally speaking about our personal experiences, about our emotions, about what we really feel like, and what we predict. I believe it was that very in-depth dialog between me and Tiffany that made me assured that she was the best one. She’s the right selection for this function. Also, I watched Tiffany’s earlier work, and I really feel like I all the time imagine she has a extremely highly effective core in her efficiency, and that didn’t get explored totally in among the earlier work. So  I wish to see her use that core to a larger extent. So, that grew to become our collaboration. I’m very glad to have her.

Aayush: The story of ‘Fishtank’ could be divided into two elements. Number one is the surreal half, which is just like the vomiting of the goldfish, AND we haven’t seen something like this earlier than. then the second half talks about real-life points, whether or not it’s associated to loneliness or sobriety. SO, how do you draw the road between that you just don’t overdo each of those parts and also you keep on the trail that you just wished to point out?

Wendi: I really like the query as a result of that was one in all my considerations in my writing course of. I all the time knew I wished to broaden on this bizarre, awkward, weird idea. But it’s additionally crucial to land the idea on precise plots, to have interaction with folks as a result of it’s not a purely experimental movie. It’s a story movie. It’s an experimental narrative that I would like folks to nonetheless get issues out of it after they watch the movie. I believe loads of the method was to dive deeper into my emotions and the incidents I’ve personally skilled earlier than. Like, I throw myself right into a world the place I imagine if I get uncomfortable, I’ll throw up a goldfish. I believe it takes loads of religion and perception on this planet that you just’re constructing so you may seamlessly sew collectively the idea and the story. Yeah, that was my course of. I believe as soon as I figured that out, writing them collectively wasn’t as laborious as I assumed. It grew to become a really pure, natural course of to imagine in what I’m writing and to. I imagine I’ve to imagine in myself. I’ve to imagine within the story to make different folks imagine.

Aayush: Now that the film goes to HollyShorts. How do you suppose that viewers will relate or, , interpret Jules’s struggles and her journey?

Wendi: That’s an important query, as a result of after we had our world premiere on the deadCenter Film Festival, which can be an Oscar-qualifying pageant in Oklahoma. I attended the pageant as a result of I wished to listen to and really feel what the viewers felt in regards to the movie. I used to be actually glad that the majority of them knew what I used to be attempting to say. Even in the event that they don’t choose up all the small print utterly, they’re in a position to choose up most of these and, string it collectively, which I’m actually glad as a result of I used to be actually apprehensive that individuals can be like, what is that this? This is so bizarre. I don’t get it. I imply, I’m positive some folks don’t get it, however I’m actually glad to, join with these audiences who perceive what I’m attempting to say. Yeah, and I hope I’ll have higher reactions from the viewers and HollyShorts as nicely.

 

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