Sitting exterior a bar within the Greenpoint part of Brooklyn one latest Sunday afternoon, Julius Rodriguez spoke with attribute straightforwardness describing music that’s something however. The composer and bandleader, who has performed with the rapper ASAP Rocky and style-bending artists like Kassa Overall and Meshell Ndegeocello, articulated the central problem of his work, an amorphous mix of jazz, funk, gospel and R&B he merely calls “the music.”
It’s not in regards to the notes, he defined, it’s in regards to the feelings behind them.
“How do you describe the colour orange to somebody?” Rodriguez stated, his tone heat but flat. “How do you describe the style of salt to somebody who’s by no means tasted salt? You don’t know that you just’re there till you’re there. You don’t know what it appears like till you’re feeling it.”
Rodriguez, 25, has been lauded for his great sense of concord and virtuosity throughout piano, drums, bass and no matter else he appears like enjoying any given week. He can maintain his personal at a psychedelic free jazz present in Brooklyn, a stadium-size rap live performance in Los Angeles, a stately supper-club gig on the Upper West Side. “He’s what we name auxiliary,” Ndegeocello stated in a telephone interview. “He performs every part.”
On “Evergreen,” out Friday on Verve Records, Rodriguez funnels sounds right into a 40-minute collage of electric-acoustic preparations steeped equally in custom and disruption, conference and audacity coming by means of in a giant, clear sound seemingly impressed by Nineteen Seventies jazz fusion. It’s a pointy detour from “Let Sound Tell All,” Rodriguez’s 2022 debut album, which was indebted to the jazz and gospel he grew up enjoying in church buildings and small golf equipment.
Long earlier than Rodriguez burst onto the New York jazz scene, he was a precocious child in Westchester. When he was 3 or 4, he took piano classes from a household pal, Audrey McCallum, the primary Black scholar to attend the Peabody Preparatory, who gave Rodriguez his first keyboard and inspired his mother and father to purchase a piano. “At the identical time, I’m studying about tempo and time signatures, how one can learn music on a workers, and the place the notes are on a piano,” he stated. “All that whereas studying how one can learn and write English.”
At age 6 or 7, Rodriguez started taking formal piano classes from John Senakwami, a piano and vocal teacher, and a luminary in Rodriguez’s hometown. One lesson per week turned two, then a couple of extra, then nearly each day. “When I first met Julius, it wasn’t his ability that I observed, it was how onerous he labored,” Senakwami stated in a telephone interview. “He would take it upon himself to do numerous analysis and provide you with issues that you just didn’t educate him.”
Rodriguez’s diligence was additionally normal by his mother and father. His father, Adlher, would play Thelonious Monk CDs as he drove his son to jazz gigs within the metropolis. “On the weekend, we might go to Jazz at Lincoln Center to see the orchestra, and ultimately my dad began taking me to jam periods to take a seat in with individuals,” Rodriguez stated. “We would do 1 a.m. jam periods once I was 11, 12, 13 years previous.”
He performed his first present as a bandleader — at 14 — at Miles’ Cafe in Midtown Manhattan after the promoter booked him from an e mail sign-up type. Rodriguez posted fliers and invited individuals to the gig. “That’s a really bold factor to do as a 14-year-old, however my mother and father would let me do it as a result of I’d made it occur,” Rodriguez stated. “I received to see how the enterprise aspect of it labored, how one can get a sure variety of individuals to indicate up, how a lot cash you make out of it.”
As a freshman on the Masters School — nonetheless a “large jazz nerd” by his personal admission — he found artists like James Blake and Chance the Rapper, “all of the issues I simply wasn’t uncovered to,” by means of a playlist of musicians set to play Governors Ball that 12 months. Then he went to the pageant and was blown away.
“It was the primary time that I noticed reside musicians enjoying in entrance of crowds that large,” Rodriguez stated. “I used to be used to going to jazz golf equipment, , the 60-seater, possibly 100, 150 on the most. For me to see enormous crowds and folks enjoying devices reside, doing what I needed to do and touching that many individuals of my demographic and age, it was form of eye opening. So I finished being shut minded to new music or common music. I believed, ‘Let me try to take up this and work out what’s there and what I can do to be a part of that as nicely.’”
Rodriguez had been a scholar at Juilliard for 2 years, enjoying in locations like Smalls and Zinc Bar, when mates within the group Onyx Collective invited him to hit the highway in 2018 as a part of the backing band for ASAP Rocky’s tour.
The gig lasted two months; Rodriguez went again to Juilliard for per week earlier than dropping out. “It was a possibility I actually needed to capitalize on, and I actually needed to deal with having a profession,” Rodriguez stated.
In 2019, he began recording “Let Sound Tell All,” which included a fierce session with Morgan Guerin, a multi-instrumentalist, on the tune “Two Way Street.” The engineer Daniel Schlett posted a clip from the studio to Instagram, utilizing it to playfully nudge the Verve president, Jamie Krents, to think about signing Rodriguez. “I used to be like, ‘You positively have to test this child out,’” Schlett stated in a telephone interview. “‘This is the perfect piano participant in New York. Don’t you guys want the perfect piano participant in New York in your file label?’”
Dahlia Ambach Caplin, the senior vice chairman of A&R at Verve, who signed Rodriguez primarily based on the advice and after listening to his music, known as him “really, really good in each setting, which is very uncommon.”
“Evergreen” has shocking moments even for somebody of Rodriguez’s nonconformity. With simply an acoustic guitar loop and brilliant synth chords, the observe “Rise and Shine” evokes early ’70s Stevie Wonder albums like “Music of My Mind” and “Talking Book,” on which Wonder centered the clavinet and Moog synthesizers. Another observe, “Run to It,” is a brassy New Orleans-focused tune meant for second-line celebrations. “Mission Statement,” the lead single on the album, options upper-register synths and bouncy digital drums that make it really feel as breezy and jovial because the rating of an previous Sega Genesis online game.
Then there’s “Champion’s Call,” a riotous concluding observe that includes the rapper, singer and producer Georgia Anne Muldrow. Against cascading drums and keys, Muldrow repeats the tune’s title, turning it right into a mantra for Rodriguez’s life and profession. It’s a becoming rallying cry for a younger artist with expansive aspirations.
“What makes this file ahead pushing is that, sure, I depart area open, however I’ve all these devices,” Rodriguez stated. “I’m not simply the jazz man. It’s not simply acoustic music. The definition of an evergreen is a plant whose foliage stays purposeful in all seasons. With all of the totally different genres on the file, it’s nonetheless my voice, nonetheless me doing myself.”